Civil Action Podcast

Civil Action: Money Over Morals – The Real Reason Trump Dumped Epstein

Attorneys Brian Kabateck and Shant Karnikian dissect Donald Trump’s unraveling web of lies about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, exposing how each false claim contradicts documented evidence. They break down Trump’s shifting timeline about when he “cut ties” with Epstein—claiming it was 2004-2005 for moral reasons, while evidence shows he was still calling Epstein a “terrific guy” who “likes beautiful women on the younger side” in 2002. The hosts reveal the real reason for their falling out: a 2004 Palm Beach mansion deal where Epstein outbid Trump, proving it was money over morals. They expose Trump’s lies about never knowing Prince Andrew (despite multiple photos together at Mar-a-Lago), flying on Epstein’s private jet seven times while claiming they weren’t close, and denying he knew his name was in Epstein files after being briefed by Pam Bondi. The episode centers on 16-year-old Virginia Giuffre, who worked as a masseuse at Mar-a-Lago before Epstein “poached” her—the only documented employee theft that supposedly ended their friendship, yet their relationship continued for years after.